Nobody is pro-abortion, you a55hole.

[lagilman]

I now wish I'd been watching the debate. Just so I could have reached through the screen and beaten McCain into sense with my WTF mallet.

Transcript from last night, on the question of a woman's right to choose:

OBAMA: We can find some common ground, because nobody's pro-abortion. I think it's always a tragic situation. We should try to reduce these circumstances.

McCAIN: Just again, the example of the eloquence of Sen. Obama. He's [finger quote]"health for the mother."[/fingerquote] You know, that's been stretched by the pro-abortion movement in America to mean almost anything. That's the extreme pro-abortion position, quote, "health."


This... such total and absolute disregard for the very real question of a woman's health and rights is... jaw-dropping. "Extreme pro-abortion position?" WTF is that? You mean anyone who thinks that no woman should be forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term, with all the emotional, physical and, yes, financial demands bearing and raising a child puts on the mother?

Nobody is pro-abortion. Nobody.

Many of us are pro-birth control, pro- responsible sex-ed, and pro-choice-to-reproduce. And pro-Obama.

Comments

[deborahlive.livejournal.com]

Amen.

[windrose.livejournal.com]

I am so glad I chose to watch Mythbusters instead of the final debate. Otherwise? That statement from McCain might've made me throw something heavy at the TV.

[neadods.livejournal.com]

I had to keep flipping to Mythbusters for that reason. But I was back at the debate to see the air quotes and saw red for the next hour.

[kateelliott.livejournal.com]

I thought McCain's essential misogyny was on display in that answer.

[stevenagy.livejournal.com]

Last night was another example how McCain and other "politicians" of his stripe see everything in black and white/good and evil. Depending, of course, on what's to their benefit. It's that mindset that the voting public is comprised by so much mindless cattle.

Obama ... hell, he makes me feel proud to vote for him. He's not a politician, he's a good man. A "decent" man to quote McCain. And every time he faces off with McCain he shows that he wants to help people understand what's going on in the country but also that he's willing to listen to our concerns, suggestions, and ideas. There's nothing wrong with making the American public more responsible and more educated on the issues facing the country and the world; there's nothing wrong with leading by example.

[gwynnega]

Yes, absolutely. My jaw dropped when he said that.

[arouraleona.livejournal.com]

Wicked icon! I love it!

[bigferret.livejournal.com]

Thank goodess I didn't see that part. I can't afford a new TV.

[graygirl.livejournal.com]

Damn straight.

[butterflykiki.livejournal.com]

*has too many murderous responses to that*

Best response on this I've ever seen: Faye Kellerman:

Abortion is for a woman what war is for a man. Sometimes necessary, sometimes not, sometimes done for good reasons, sometimes not. But the decision whether or not to have one rests with each woman and no one else, ultimately, the same way whether to go to war does for men.

The difference being, of course, that one can be jailed or labeled a Conscientious Objector during a war; it's completely individual. Only the consequences of refusing to go to war involve others. But a woman having no choice about whether to carry a baby to term and risk her own life, requires the help of others to end the pregnancy. Doctors, nurses, anethesiologists. They should be allowed to save one person there.

[jperceval.livejournal.com]

And the teeny-tiny kernel of respect I doled out to McSame for reports that he was standing against his own party in terms of dredging up the Wright nonsense again is snatched right back. Bad senator, no kernel.

[lagilman]

oh hell, I don't love Obama either. There are still a lot of things he has to answer for, and at the base of it all he's still a politician. But given the choice between the two, which is the only realistic choice we're given? I can't risk not voting, myself. What if McCain won?

(some day a Perfect Candidate will come along. And writers and teachers will be paid more than bankers and plastic surgeons. Until that day...)



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[stephen-dedman.livejournal.com]

Amen. And I can't think of anything more likely to increase the abortion rate than McCain-Palin's policies on their insistence on abstinence-only programs rather than meaningful sex education.

[lagilman]

And my participation or lack of participation really makes no difference.

I have a strong personal stand that believes otherwise [and think that if you don't vote you give up your right to comment on the results, at least in my hearing], but I'm not going to try and change your mind. I will, however, remind you that the presidential election isn't the only thing up for a vote this year. There are a lot of other things on the ballot....

okay, you just hit a SERIOUS hot-button here, beware....

[lagilman]

I doubt I'll vote.


For the love of anything, huh? Seriously. One of the greatest gifts we're given as citizens is having a say in how the country is run on the local, state, and federal levels, and you shrug and say 'whatever?'

Have you read your local/state ballot? Do you know what you might be allowing someone else to decide for you? Can you honestly say that you don't care?

If nothing else, read up on the suffragette movement (or watch Iron Jawed Angels) and then decide that that was 'then' not now, and your vote isn't important.

/hot-button moment

[arouraleona.livejournal.com]

From all the feedback I've been hearing, I'm damn glad I chose to watch the Project Runway finale myself. I'm just getting more and more pissed off with POLITICS AS USUAL from the Republican "maverick." Maverick my big white butt.

Plus the apartment down the hall has a shrine to Cindy McCain... I get enough of the McCains just walking to the elevator.

[severedscythe.livejournal.com]

I am very, very glad I don't live in america, because I might have hunted the wanker down and punched him in the nose.

What the FUCK.

[deire.livejournal.com]

How on earth could I have forgotten how much better it is to kill both mother and fetus than abort for health reasons. Gee!

[elialshadowpine]

I think I'm glad I didn't watch the debate. My blood pressure is high enough already without "commentary" like that putting it up.

[fakefrenchie.livejournal.com]

Did you hear that Sarah Palin is going to be on SNL?

[debg.livejournal.com]

McCain is a nutcase. No argument.

However, to quote a friend, I don't want to be forced to have a clergy any more than I want to be forced to have a child. Imposition of an Invisible Cloud Being on my reproductive rights is no more acceptable to me than a berk like McCain and his air-quotes.

That decision is NOT "between a woman and her clergy". It's between a woman and HER DOCTOR.



So far, that arrow remains undarkened