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lagilmanReading responses here and elsewhere to the debate, and it seems like yes, McCain was broadcasting all the wrong body language to go with his trying to patronize Obama's understanding of events, and instead came across as Senator Get Off My Lawn!
I wasn't thrilled with Obama's performance [he needs to spend more time with a speech coach, to move from professorial to presidential] but he made valid counterpoints to McCain's claims [I particularly liked the "on-paper vs. actual corporate taxes paid" bit, and did anyone else wonder, when McCain was prophesying Doom if corporate taxes were raised, why he hadn't done anything about the jobs that had already gone offshore?] McCain? McSame. I didn't hear a single thing out of his mouth that made me think he had a clue about what the general working-jane populace wants or needs, or how he would move the country away from the current state of worldwide disdain we're held in, two things that are important to me. And just once, for the love of god, John, can you let go of the POW thing? We know, and it makes not a goddamn bit more difference to me than the fact that Barack was raised by a single parent. Seriously. That's who you were. What are you now?
Fact-checking the Debate. Highly recommended, as a lot of things that were said were, um, either misleading or just plain wrong.
My conclusion: the winner? Jim Lehrer, who was a fantabulous moderator and did a great job with a good and interesting format.
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Meanwhile, for those of you who don't read below the fold, a fascinating bit o' news that cannot bode well for fans of degregulation:
WASHINGTON — The chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, a longtime proponent of deregulation, acknowledged on Friday that failures in a voluntary supervision program for Wall Street’s largest investment banks had contributed to the global financial crisis, and he abruptly shut the program down....Also Friday, the S.E.C.’s inspector general released a report strongly criticizing the agency’s performance in monitoring Bear Stearns before it collapsed in March. Christopher Cox, the commission chairman, said he agreed that the oversight program was “fundamentally flawed from the beginning....The last six months have made it abundantly clear that voluntary regulation does not work."
Um, duh?
I wasn't thrilled with Obama's performance [he needs to spend more time with a speech coach, to move from professorial to presidential] but he made valid counterpoints to McCain's claims [I particularly liked the "on-paper vs. actual corporate taxes paid" bit, and did anyone else wonder, when McCain was prophesying Doom if corporate taxes were raised, why he hadn't done anything about the jobs that had already gone offshore?] McCain? McSame. I didn't hear a single thing out of his mouth that made me think he had a clue about what the general working-jane populace wants or needs, or how he would move the country away from the current state of worldwide disdain we're held in, two things that are important to me. And just once, for the love of god, John, can you let go of the POW thing? We know, and it makes not a goddamn bit more difference to me than the fact that Barack was raised by a single parent. Seriously. That's who you were. What are you now?
Fact-checking the Debate. Highly recommended, as a lot of things that were said were, um, either misleading or just plain wrong.
My conclusion: the winner? Jim Lehrer, who was a fantabulous moderator and did a great job with a good and interesting format.
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Meanwhile, for those of you who don't read below the fold, a fascinating bit o' news that cannot bode well for fans of degregulation:
WASHINGTON — The chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, a longtime proponent of deregulation, acknowledged on Friday that failures in a voluntary supervision program for Wall Street’s largest investment banks had contributed to the global financial crisis, and he abruptly shut the program down....Also Friday, the S.E.C.’s inspector general released a report strongly criticizing the agency’s performance in monitoring Bear Stearns before it collapsed in March. Christopher Cox, the commission chairman, said he agreed that the oversight program was “fundamentally flawed from the beginning....The last six months have made it abundantly clear that voluntary regulation does not work."
Um, duh?
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Date: 2008-09-27 11:42 am (UTC)Sing it, sista!
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Date: 2008-09-27 01:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-09-27 01:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-09-27 02:39 pm (UTC)(Says the guy with some bank stock twisting slowly, slowly in the wind. And many years closer to retirement than you.)
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Date: 2008-09-27 04:02 pm (UTC)And voluntary regulation for the previous 75 years before that did work? Jackasses.
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Date: 2008-09-27 06:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-09-27 08:19 pm (UTC)Plus, I'm an ex-debater and it felt waaaay too amateurish, even though I know presidential debates and competitive debate have very little in common.