some politics with your lunch...

[lagilman]

from the NYT:

After a highly-emotional debate, the House voted 218-212 to set a timetable for bringing American troops home. Republicans said the measure would amount to micromanaging the war.

to which I say -- dudes, if you'd been managing this war at all, we wouldn't be in this mess. So ahead with the micro!

Comments

[karenmiller.livejournal.com]

Wow. If they'd done that for Hitler, we'd all be speaking German.

[bill-leisner.livejournal.com]

Yes, I shudder to think what would have happened if we stopped fighting Hilter after four years...

[redstarrobot.livejournal.com]

You mean if they'd tried and executed Hitler, rooted the Nazis out of all government and military positions, held new elections, and left the country, the Third Reich would have won?

[lagilman]

Comparing this war to WWII is... well, it's bad rhetoric, in my opinion. The situations are not equitable.

But we already know that we disagree on this, and are not going to change the other's mind.

[otterdance.livejournal.com]

I am so torn on this. On one hand, I think we do need the Iraqi government, and people, to get on their feet and run their damn country. We took out Sadam. We didn't sign on for a civil war.

On the other hand, realistically, we broke it, so we bought it. To bug out and let the whole mess collapse into even deeper chaos, after we destablized it, is evil. I don't think a year's deadline is long enough to resolve anything, sadly.

The only real solution I can think of is a time machine. I think Bush and his cohorts deserve impeacment at the very least, for being so stupid and culturally blind.

[lagilman]

Oh, I don't believe we'll be out by the deadline. But I do beleive that we NEED to have a deadline, a point to which we say "this far, and no further." And not making a deadline doesn't mean it shouldn't be taken seriously, and striven for. Any adult should know and understand that.

People said we shouldn't get out of Viet Nam, either. some of them used the WWII reference then, too. But at what point are we just throwing bodies - our own, and those of their citizens - into a hungry abyss that will never be filled, and never satisfied?

Violence may occasionally be needful. But it's not a solution.

[otterdance.livejournal.com]

It's all moot anyway, since Bush will crush it with a veto if it makes it as far as his desk.

"Violence may occasionally be needful. But it's not a solution."


Conquer your foe by force, you increase his enmity; conquer by love, and you will reap no after-sorrow.

-Fo-Sho-Hing-Tsan-King