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from the AP wire:

"He made one mistake and now it's costing him his life," said Kenneth Smith, 35, who visited (death row prisoner Kenneth Lee Boyd) with his wife and two children. "A lot of people get a second chance. I think he deserves a second chance."


What was the Boyd's (Smith's father) 'mistake?'

Killing his estranged wife and father-in-law, while their two sons from that marriage were present (one pinned under his mother's body, the other trying to get the gun away from his father). He does not deny having committed the murders.




I hate people. I really do.

Date: 2005-12-02 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenmiller.livejournal.com
Which begs the question ... why are people so gullible? What need does this naievety feed?

Not that I don't think people can't turn their lives around. They can. But I get sick to death of hearing all the reasons and excuses. We've got 9 Australians looking at the death penalty for heroin smuggling in Indonesia. They got done after Schapelle Corby got done for weed -- and the media circus over that was huge. You'd have to be dead not to notice. Yet they were apprehended with the heroin sticky taped to their bodies. Kilos of the stuff. Street value in the millions.

Now they're trying to say they didn't know what it was.

There's a good chance they'll get shot on a beach at dawn. Or spend the rest of their lives in an Indonesian hell hole, with no chance of parole. While the Bali bombers get time off, but let's not go there.

And yet again, we have the handwringers complaining that this isn't fair.

They know they're committing a crime, they know the penalty, they do it anyway. And we have become so corrupt in our society that the idea of consequences is anathema. No wonder the Asians despise us as weak. We are weak. We let people get away with such crap. Spin any old line and you can get away with making money out of peddling stuff that kills people. And the arrogance that says, we'll come into your country, we'll knowingly and eagerly break your laws ... but don't you dare hold us accountable because we're Australian!

Makes me sick.

Maybe this time the message will get through.

Date: 2005-12-03 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Which begs the question ... why are people so gullible?

Do not start me. I live in a country where a very vocal, very powerful group equates Saddam with 9/11, big business with Jesus, and thinks pro-life isn't incmpatible with urging the death penalty for more and more people.

Why are they gullible? Because they don't want to think (or can't) and what they're told fits their prejudices. I don't know how many times people have proudly announced that they don't read, or that they hate all news but Fox because the stuff they don't want to know is "lies."

Date: 2005-12-03 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenmiller.livejournal.com
Well, on the whole I'm not terribly fond of abortion, and there are some instances where I support the death penalty. I don't think it's a cut and dried thing. I don't think you can say, if you're a supporter of one you can't do the other. The situations aren't the same. An unborn child is innocent of everything, full stop. Some criminals I believe have forfeited their rights to breathe. That's the theoretical position, anyway. Facts make things messy, I agree, but I do think it's a case of each situation on its merits, and no blanket rulings.

The whole Jesus and big business thing makes me angry, and it makes me laugh. Those folk are so wrong I sometimes wish I could be there to see their faces when they find out in person just how wrong they were ...

Date: 2005-12-03 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Oh, I support the death penalty. I also support choice, because it is the Mother who has to decide if the impact of pregnancy on her life is worth it.

I can also see the "child is innocent" argument, but when it's used here it's usually used as "All life is precious" and "Life is a beautiful choice" - which are pretty incompatible with "Gays should be executed" and "death row appeals should be limited" - sentiments which are usually also coming from the same group of people.

As for the other - I used to say that all I asked of Heaven was to see some people's faces on Judgement Day.

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