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Apparently, there is someone out there ranting on-line about CURSE THE DARK. Mainly that it's all about the sex*, and that the sex scenes are just dropped in there for no reason, and don't do anything, and etc etc waste of ink and paper and why don't I just focus on the story?

*blinks*

There is one significant sex scene in the book, where Wren and Sergei finally stop doing the dance of avoidance. It's pretty tasteful, all things considered, and rather funny (if I do say so myself) and sets up the change in their relationship in a way that also illuminates their own personalities and how they deal with each other. Everything after that? Pretty much in service to the evolving Personal Situation (spoilers averted for those of you who haven't read all the books), and to move along the case -- like many couples, they tend to talk about things in bed, and for them that often means work-things.

I suspect we're seeing this particular person's Issues in this review, not anything about my book. Hopefully, it will intrigue people to pick up a copy, rather than making them avoid it.... [and they won't be disappointed that it's not particularly smutty]


Also, and totally off-topic: couscous with feta -- a perfectly reasonably breakfast, y/n?




*this will be a particular surprise to my publisher, who often bemoans the fact that I refuse to throw more overt romance into my fantasy.

Date: 2009-05-12 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jperceval.livejournal.com
I have a friend who got bad reviews to the tune of OH NOES TEH SECKS IT IS TOO HAWT! Her book? Clearly marked AND marketed as "erotic romance," with back cover blurb indicating a threesome and everything.

I think stories like this belong under I See Stupid People.

Date: 2009-05-12 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wedschilde.livejournal.com
:::shakes head::: the sex scene totally made sense. it probably is an issue for someone personally.

Date: 2009-05-12 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rolanni.livejournal.com
Someone once wrote to us -- I swear that I am not making this up -- asking us to expunge the sex scenes from the Liaden novels so that they could be given to this person's daughter to read.

Don't even get me started on the people who look at a book clearly marked Dark Fantasy; This is NOT a Liaden book do you SEE any Turtles on the Cover? and felt compelled to shout to the internets that OMG! This is NOT a Liaden book! The Sex! It Makes My Eyes Burn!

*sigh*

...going back to work now.

Oh -- couscous with feta sounds like a perfectly fine breakfast to me. *looks adorable*

Date: 2009-05-12 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delkytlar.livejournal.com
There's your problem. Sex scenes to advance the plot and affect the main characters are useless. Sex scenes should be useful for purely purient purposes. :)

Date: 2009-05-12 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mevennen.livejournal.com
How odd. It's hardly along the lines of Anais Nin. And IIRC it took them quite a while to get to that point, so it's hardly just shoved in, either.

But then you do wonder whether the book that some reviewers read is actually the one that you wrote, or something that has slipped in from another dimension.

Date: 2009-05-12 02:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-05-12 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] burger-eater.livejournal.com
Many years ago Realms of Fantasy had a reader survey to gauge their feelings about sexual content in stories. A startling (to me) number of people said that any sexual content at all ruined the story for them.

How sheltered I was.

Date: 2009-05-12 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sizztheseed.livejournal.com
Feta and Couscous? I should bloody well hope so.

Date: 2009-05-12 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] svilleficrecs.livejournal.com
Haven't read the book... haven't read any of your books as a matter of fact (though I have one on my shelf) but I highly suspect you're right about the *I see your issues* thing poking through.

People who tweak about sex scenes that leave the bedroom door open at all (to the point where they're all lalalalalala reading through my fingers is it over yet) sometimes have a tendency to skim read or be so cringy with it that they can't/don't read it closely enough to notice anything (read:characterization development) but the fact that there are BOOBIES AND PEENS. WHY ARE THERE BOOBIES AND PEENS IN MY FANTASY/SF/NON-ROMANCE?!?! (or even, sometimes, romance.)

If I had a dollar for every time I read a comment like "I just skim the sex scenes" followed by one like "The sex scenes were gratuitous/pointless" in comments on certain romance review sites, I'd have... several dollars. Not that there aren't plenty of romances (and other books) that are guilty of just that, but if you just skim till they're not naked any more, how would you (oh mythical reader) know?

Date: 2009-05-12 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] house-draven.livejournal.com
Jeez. People are insane. There's nothing wrong or offensive about that scene. It's a perfectly natural (and imho) seamless evolution of the relationship -- certainly not gratuitous.

Feta and couscous sounds yummy to me.

Date: 2009-05-12 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorek.livejournal.com
I don't remember the sex in CtD being that unusual or out of place. When I first read your statement I thought you meant BfS. The sex in *that* one seemed more graphic and out of place. But maybe that's because I just read it.

And it *is* published by Luna, a division of, ahem, *Harlequin*.

As for couscous with feta, not appropriate. You need to add greens! Add a salad! You have to eat healthy :)

Date: 2009-05-12 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martianmooncrab.livejournal.com
so, where are the Turtle sex scenes? grin.

Date: 2009-05-12 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-booklover.livejournal.com
Hmmm well if I didn't already have a much read copy I would certainly pick it up just because of that. I agree with your take on the scene. It was certainly not gratuitous.

Date: 2009-05-12 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fakefrenchie.livejournal.com
Feta with coucous? You are mixing cultures, but that's okay by me. ;-)

Date: 2009-05-12 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shui-long.livejournal.com
I refuse to throw more overt romance into my fantasy

No, they don't want romance, they want graphic (and gratuitous) SEX. Apparently they think readers want it - I'm not sure how true that is, but what would I know? I just buy books and read them... but not, on the whole, for the gratuitous sex scenes.

Sex scene in CtD? Absolutely relevant to the Wren/Sergei relationship, the character development, and the plot. No problem.

The person who's ranting is either a troll, or stupid (not mutually exclusive categories), or a stooge set up by your publishers to increase sales. In which case I hope it works...

Date: 2009-05-13 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruford42.livejournal.com
*boggle* So they finally reached that point? Damn, and I was so hoping to avoid the book store a little longer...

Date: 2009-05-13 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I never thought of couscous with feta. I think I must try it.

Date: 2009-05-13 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
That not only sounds good, it sounds like something I can do in the electric kettle. And I need to pull that out and start working on the Broke At A Convention Cookbook.

Date: 2009-05-13 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handlebar605.livejournal.com
It isn't me but, didn't I mention that the sex in that book caught me by surprise? I'm pretty sure it was one of the things I mentioned here.

Part of my problem, was that I kinda follow the military legal definition for sex "Penetration however slight". That's also the big divider for softcore & hardcore porn, the latter shows the penetration while the former doesn't. I personally wasn't expecting a Penthouse Letters description of the act in the middle of a fantasy.

Date: 2009-05-13 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruford42.livejournal.com
Doh...If my memory wasn't so swiss cheesed I'd remember to be ashamed at confusing sexual situations from older titles to hoping that something gives Wren's relationships all around a real kick...Or maybe I just wanna see PB as a flower gir...demon?

Date: 2009-05-13 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wrenn-8811.livejournal.com
Sex, there was sex???

Actually I found the passage very well written, and in good taste, without this particular scene, I feel that we would have been left scratching our heads as to why Wren and Sergei are suddenly doing better.

All relationships have up and downs, and I find that most are resolved in the bedroom.

Sex between a loving couple is a fact of life, get over it people.

They even have it in sections of the bible!

Keep up the great writing, I look forward to your books and blog.

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