Lisa -- really? You think that the US government should take an active role (military or political or economic) in tearing down this government? How then is that different from what he's complaining about now - that the US government had a hand in installing this government, and others?
Is it okay if YOU think the cause is right? Or when I think it's right? Or when someone in the White House thinks it's in our political interest?
The reason I did not want to engage with Saladin on this is that he has a long and vocal history of "American government bad! Western civilization corrupt!" in almost any scenario, and he tried to use my words to back that up - when what I had actually said was "WE (the world) NEED TO STAY THE HELL OUT OF THIS AND LET THE EGYPTIAN PEOPLE DECIDE."
That's the definition of a sovereign and democratic nation.
Yes, we should stand up and say "it's time to tear down that wall," as it were. And y'know something? People are doing exactly that. I did exactly that. The government, in its own self-protecting way, is doing that. Hell, even Israel, which has more to lose, at at a much higher risk, than anyone, is doing that.
So being lectured in my own 'living room' about what's going on? No, sorry. That's not discussion, and I don't have the desire to feed that particular troll.
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Date: 2011-01-31 04:23 pm (UTC)Is it okay if YOU think the cause is right? Or when I think it's right? Or when someone in the White House thinks it's in our political interest?
The reason I did not want to engage with Saladin on this is that he has a long and vocal history of "American government bad! Western civilization corrupt!" in almost any scenario, and he tried to use my words to back that up - when what I had actually said was "WE (the world) NEED TO STAY THE HELL OUT OF THIS AND LET THE EGYPTIAN PEOPLE DECIDE."
That's the definition of a sovereign and democratic nation.
Yes, we should stand up and say "it's time to tear down that wall," as it were. And y'know something? People are doing exactly that. I did exactly that. The government, in its own self-protecting way, is doing that. Hell, even Israel, which has more to lose, at at a much higher risk, than anyone, is doing that.
So being lectured in my own 'living room' about what's going on? No, sorry. That's not discussion, and I don't have the desire to feed that particular troll.