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Laura Anne Gilman ([personal profile] lagilman) wrote2009-04-08 08:06 am

if it's Wednesday, I'm behind schedule. As usual.

Brain never really engaged on Tuesday, so after taking Pandora to the vet, I gave up and dealt with a lot of small pending things. Y'know, filing, cleaning, laundry, answering e-mails, culling the pile of magazines TBR, figuring out what wines I'll be taking with me for the Seder Thursday night....

Also had some back-and-forth with Madame Editrix about the cover for Hard Magic. At this point, urban fantasy has a look that seems as carved-in-stone as Scottish romances, but there really is such a thing as too much over-identification, and I asked, rather plaintively, if we couldn't get away from the overt trappings, just a bit?

Some ideas were bandied about, and a compromise that I rather like was floated, but it will all depend on Voices Other Than Mine having their say. In a perfect world, the cover for Hard Magic would be a shot of Bonnie working a la the opening credits of CSI, only with a swirl of magic replacing whatever technical apparatus they were using, and No. Leather. Anywhere.

Also; no tats, midriffs, or high heeled anything. In the books, she is far more likely to be wearing cargo pants, engineer's boots, and a long-sleeved baby tee.

We'll see, the author said dubiously and yet with a spark of hope somewhere deep in her withered soul...

Thankfully brain staged a comeback Tuesday night, and another 2 chapters were red-marked and retrofitted. There are portions of this book I really like, and portions that are scaring me for what they're trying to do. That's a good combination, I think. But there's something rising out of the mess, slowly.

Like all books, this one's teaching me something new I didn't know about process: I'm still finding things my lizard brain left there for the mammal brain to pick up and work into the revised narrative, but the actual timing and results of that are...changing. I'm still not quite sure how. Updates as I figure it out.

And thinking about story-building let me to some more thinking about Monday night's episode of Castle --
One of the things that I really liked, thinking about it after, was when Beckett finally told Castle about what had happened to her, that it was her mother and not her father who had died, and then said "so now Nikki has backstory," Castle's immediate reaction was to fall back on his (half-joking) 'stripper" story... not because it was a wise-ass comment, but because it was his way of saying "this character is based on you, but it won't be you. You're my inspiration, not my template." He -- and the writers -- are making a separation between their (fictional) lives and his (fictional within the fiction) novel-life.

Or maybe I'm giving the writers too much credit. But I don't think so.

I also really really loved the completely non-verbal way Beckett said "holy shit, so this is how the best-selling world lives" when she visited his apartment, her body saying what her voice didn't. Because, yeah, the well-off are not like you and me. They have large city condos with shiny new appliances. And formal dining rooms you can play Laser Tag in.

I'm sure the show will jump the shark at some point. But hopefully not for a while...


And now, coffee, writing, and, um, more writing. And some red-lining and possibly some headdesking, kicking of walls, and whimpering.

urban fantasy cover trappings

[identity profile] jperceval.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
What about "and no butt shots," especially in tight leather? My reading group and I were discussing how we'd love to see something other than the protagonist's ass on covers, especially leather-clad assess with tramp stamps peeking out over the top.

[identity profile] wedschilde.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
i LOVED the laser tag scene. seriously.... that was so cool.

[identity profile] antonstrout.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny, I was about to demand that they put my Simon on the cover in tight leather pants, bare midriff AND high heels... maybe I'll make it part of the story that he's undercover in the West Village.

[identity profile] barbhendee.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)

Laura, would you pop over to my live journal and take a look at my new cover? I'm doing an independent urban fantasy (vampire) series, and I'm still getting used to the trappings--after doing high fantasy for so long. I *think* this cover is a little different from the standard urban fantasy covers, but you know a lot more about this stuff than I do.

[identity profile] barbhendee.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)

Oh, thank you. I know you've been on "both sides" of the conference stuff many times.

The first time J.C. saw the cover for DHAMPIR, he blinked and said, "Our characters could never afford those clothes."

Hah!

Payment for Cover Artists?

[identity profile] barbhendee.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
This interesting discussion of covers has made me think about the artists.

I've always wondered how they are paid--I think it must be a flat fee?

How much would an artist be paid if he/she was doing a hard cover painting for a publisher like Roc or Ace?
Edited 2009-04-08 19:12 (UTC)

[identity profile] ramblin-phyl.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
The cover for my next urban fantasy "Faery Moon" has glorious color saturation and an otherworldly fantasy feel. It's a good cross between a high fantasy cover and romance. So did "Moon In The Mirror"
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[personal profile] djonn 2009-04-08 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Regarding Castle: I think you're right; this is a smart group of writers. I had been thinking that the handful of key names on this (Andrew W. Marlowe, Rob Bowman, Bryan Spicer) sounded familiar, and a quick foray onto IMDb shows why. Marlowe (the series creator) is mostly an action writer (he scripted Air Force One), but Rob Bowman (executive producer) and Bryan Spicer (one of their primary directors) have a lot of genre-TV background. Bowman was a producer for about five seasons' worth of The X-Files, and Spicer is an extremely experienced director with a slew of interesting credits; one of his earlier directorial projects was the pilot for The Adventures of Brisco County Jr., and he's also worked on series including Eerie, Indiana, SeaQuest, The Lone Gunmen, House, and 24.

I really hope ABC picks it up for a new season; from what I can tell, its ratings are decent if not spectacular.

[identity profile] martianmooncrab.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
thanks for your efforts on the cover, its like all SF has to have a pointy rocket on the cover, and all Fantasy has to have either a Dragon or a Unicorn on it... I would like to think that Paranormal are more than leather covered butt shots.

... my Dad raced motorcycles, and you overheat in leather .. and sweat... its not that flexible, and the darn stuff was HEAVY, specially after he sweated in it.

[identity profile] martianmooncrab.livejournal.com 2009-04-10 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I have this vision of claws and teeth catching in the zipper pulls. Mutally assured pain there.

[identity profile] cathiecaffey.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
I do hope you get to get the changes you want for the cover! It would be so neat if you got that with the cargo and tee! It would stand out for me and say buy me!!

Gosh, I think I shall start watching Castle. LOL