in passing, not so much politics as "dear God(s), teh Stupid they claim in Your Name..."

[lagilman]

Has anyone else noticed that a lot of the "Oh Noes Mosque on Sacred Amurican Ground!" hysteria seems to come from people with a vested (or not so vested) interest in NYC -home of those danged liberals - not actually recovering, ever?

Because it seems to me "yay the real estate in the 5-block radius is coming back to finance-generating use!" is a much better response to the news than fear. Especially since I don't recall anyone saying anything similar about Catholic-based organizations around Oklahoma City...


For those coming in late: it's not a mosque, it's a Muslim community center (akin to a YMCA/YMHA), it's not on Ground Zero, it's two blocks away, which in NYC is Actual Distance, and I've yet to find any verified links suggesting the man who is spearheading all of this has ever condoned the attacks or been anything even remotely resembling the actual definition of a terrorist. If you can give me a legitimate source that says otherwise, sing out. But if you link me to Faux News or its ilk, I will scorn your ass into orbit.


[New Yorkers will also point out that the 'sacred ground' has more than its share of "gentlemen's clubs, (aka expensive strip joints)" tacky tourist shops, and the much-beloved-by-New Yorkers lunch trucks -- many of which are Halal trucks owned and operated by Muslims. Nobody seems to think that any of this is an insult to the memory of those who died...

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[scarlettina.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, I've seen some New Yorkers using these arguments to keep the Park 51 CC out of the area. I've seen New Yorkers talking about hallowed ground and insults and so on. There's a small but vocal minority who agree with all this Faux News talk.

I'm with you, myself; the city is a tapestry and every building is a quilting square, which makes every block a significant distance. Muslims died in 9/11. All this righteous talk from the right is smoke and mirrors as far as I'm concerned. I hate that this has become an issue. It's another way for the right to keep us from discussing substantive issues in prep for the upcoming elections.

[lagilman]

Unfortunately, I've seen some New Yorkers using these arguments to keep the Park 51 CC out of the area. I've seen New Yorkers talking about hallowed ground and insults and so on. There's a small but vocal minority who agree with all this Faux News talk.

Yep, which is why I specified "a lot" and not "all." Even the best of places has its share of ignorant jackasses, who bray more than they think. But the ringleaders, who keep it in the public eye? They seem to have, historically, anti-NYC biases.